Implications of Joblessness, Subscriptions and Skills
Does Delphi justify it's high costs?
Your reviewer looked at Dice.com, Monster, JobBankUSA and was interesting to see some nice trends:
The usual favorite was to put "Delphi, Paradox, Interbase", and then get a free copy of Delphi (the employers won't blink buying it for you) and then Interbase (ditto) and almost every 3rd party component to get the job done... Then spend the whole day chatting away on your ICQ List, MSN List, browse the web and do very little works.
The reality catches up very quickly with these people. Your reviewer remembers hiring plenty of these kind of people.
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Most Delphi developers bitch and moan about the last version of Delphi being Delphi 7 (some say Delphi 6 before on-line activation was used, or Delphi 5 when the last good compiler was there). Some say Delphi 2007 (the last good version before the Unicode update), some say Delphi 2009 (because that was the last good version before the nefarious copy-protection caused lot of problem with Delphi).
With the job market being so bad, few or very few employers can catch-up and use the latest version of Delphi. The problem with Delphi (in relation to jobs) are:
1) Cost of Delphi + Third-party.
This is what kills Delphi dead in the water. The people who advocate Delphi are the vendor themselves on the newsgroups. You can usually Google them up, and they charge a pretty penny for their product.
1a) Of what Quality?The quality of the products built with Delphi so poor that the vendors just decided to move on. That means, even with small costs - domain and cheap web-hosting (US$9.95, US$4.95...), some vendors just decided their domains should expire and no-longer pay for the web-hosting.
The former two Delphi Magazines, DelphiMagazine (UK) redirects to a Thumb-Drive buy-now site, DelphiMagazine (USA) redirects to a cyber-squatter site.
The remaining people who are there, developed in during the Delphi 3-7 time when CompuServe, AOL and BBS's ruled the day. When the Internet came, a new and ugly force came out - nasty customer feedback.
CompuServe had this whack-a-mole policy where you can delete nasty feedback and ban that person from the whole CompuServe network. There were a couple of vocal "Delphi Haters" who voiced their opinions and eventually got removed from the former GO:BORL forums. Then came the USENET, where (as of today), Borland still puts hosts a newsgroup server linked to web-based NNTP. They stopped anonymous-posting when Simon Kissel (of Cross-Kylix fame) spammed the former Borland newsgroups and permanently ejected from the CodeGear, Embarcadero newsgroups.
1b) Plagiarism and Fraud.
Why bother work so hard to write your own codes when you can steal it and re-brand it as your own?
With people using Delphi doing this, you can imagine why:
It's faster to make money from the sweat of other people, lie about everything and get away with it. Many Delphi developers get away with it because many of them are overseas. Their customers would be from Japan, Germany or Brazil and then they have no legal recourse to get their money back, short of disputing it with MasterCard or Visa.
That's why you see some vendors offering direct money transfer to pay money to them. Good luck if you can get your money back. Then, there is PHP with mostly free, C# with mostly free, Python, Ruby with almost free everything you can take and use. Ditto with Java. For example, Mr. Jolyon Smith uses NetBeans instead. Go figure...
A fool and his money is one big (third) party...
2) Desktop app only, but no Linux, Mac, Web or Andriod or iPad or iPhone apps.The biggest market now is portable apps. The other reason for this is because it is easy to develop and fast to make money because either the Telco (your telephone company such as AT-and-T or Verizon) or iTunes or Google collects money on the developer's behalf.
For example, to activate the product, you would send an SMS (US$5.00) to a certain number and then receive a confirmation code to enter into the small mobile app. Some vendors, like Kaspersky Anti-virus sends the confirmation code to enter to your PC's Kaspersky Security application.
Mac and Linux apps are good money, it seems. Certain vendors make Mac-only applications and earn lots of money. For instance, OmniGroup makes excellent products for Mac OSX.
iTunes, iPhone and iOS is the latest hottest territory for developers. Where's Embarcadero? not here...
3) Software Piracy. This is already affecting many Delphi 3rd party developers.
Ask Mr. Ray N. whether DevExpress would support "Diamond Docking", better looking Ribbon compatibility (as in better looking Ribbon aesthetics and Ribbon UI) or when a Report Writer for VCL would be ready, the answer is that they don't have the money to do it. (or rather - they cannot afford to hire more Delphi developers)
This leads to higher prices or building SAAS products (e.g., TestRails) because there is no piracy or leaks when the customer does not pay-up. Have you seen any SAAS product built with Delphi? Me neither.
Good times are over. DelphiHater's predictions in a jobless recovery and jobless economy
Your reviewer sees many friends who are dying to find a job. Maybe it's time to say this to them:
1) Move on. Delphi won't pay your bills anymore. The reasons are simple. For employers, the costs don't make any sense. The development costs are so expensive, all the profits get eaten-up by the vendors and there's no money left.
If there was money left, it's all gone. Take a look at how many jobs PHP, VB.NET, C# are available. Maybe you'll learn something like learning a new skill towards financial freedom.
But wait - there's more. There's this need to buy, buy and buy third-party components and then realize that most of it is of better quality or requires no payment in C#, PHP, Perl, Java and even in OSX / iOS (iPhone/iPad).
2) Consider flipping burgers in Mc Donalds or working as a store assistant in Wallmart. For some people, that's considered a deep insult, but to be honest, in this kind of economy, maybe these people can see beyond fooling around during office-hours monitoring the newsgroups (like an unpaid employee) or doing work for free for others, or doing work for nothing.
Basic lessons -- like coming early to work, leaving on-time, taking responsibility for a job, doing a good job well done comes with flipping burgers. The saying goes -- the higher the wages before being laid-off and pride, the deeper the fall...
3) Consider going to work as a junior C# or C++ developer. Face the honest facts and realize that all the time you were lied, cheated and there is nothing honest with Delphi. The whole thing is a big house of credit-card debts, one bill after another not paid, nothing worth it. Amazingly, many Delphi developers shun re-learning everything all over again, telling the same nonsense over and over again -- like too hard to learn a new language, too difficult. But what the fact is that these Delphi developers don't want to learn anything except want a big paycheck (that no longer exists).
4) Some female Delphi developers on the newsgroups have become domestic servants or au-pair or cleaner or janitor. It's a damn shame that someone leaves the country (e.g., Philippines, Indonesia) and work as a domestic servant in a richer country (e.g., UK or Ireland or Italy). Your reviewer was surprised to know there was so many Delphi developers who gave up their job and went overseas. Don't be surprised the nanny who takes care of your kids was once a Delphi developer :)
There are always die-hard Delphi software developers. You can read the current article "Lost a Delphi Envagelist" if you feel confident.
Does Delphi justify it's high costs?
Your reviewer looked at Dice.com, Monster, JobBankUSA and was interesting to see some nice trends:
- Some Delphi jobs refer to using Delphi Hotel Management System (Hospitality and working at hotels)
- Some Delphi jobs refer to going to the Delphi, the GM subsidiary.
- Some Delphi jobs refer to porting Delphi application to C# (hint: Visual Studio)
- Some Delphi jobs are there from suspiciously looking Indian Outsourcing companies (hint: ABC "Infotech" LLC, some name with "InfoTech", some name whose website states "Outsourcing to India?", some name whose Website states "Chinese Developers wanted")
- Some Delphi jobs requires you speak Hindi or Chinese as a second language.
- Some Delphi jobs, the person who you are asked to call, sounds like a thick burly voice or thick accent you cannot make out if it is actually English or a mix of Hindi-English.
The usual favorite was to put "Delphi, Paradox, Interbase", and then get a free copy of Delphi (the employers won't blink buying it for you) and then Interbase (ditto) and almost every 3rd party component to get the job done... Then spend the whole day chatting away on your ICQ List, MSN List, browse the web and do very little works.
The reality catches up very quickly with these people. Your reviewer remembers hiring plenty of these kind of people.
Language
Most Delphi developers bitch and moan about the last version of Delphi being Delphi 7 (some say Delphi 6 before on-line activation was used, or Delphi 5 when the last good compiler was there). Some say Delphi 2007 (the last good version before the Unicode update), some say Delphi 2009 (because that was the last good version before the nefarious copy-protection caused lot of problem with Delphi).
With the job market being so bad, few or very few employers can catch-up and use the latest version of Delphi. The problem with Delphi (in relation to jobs) are:
1) Cost of Delphi + Third-party.
This is what kills Delphi dead in the water. The people who advocate Delphi are the vendor themselves on the newsgroups. You can usually Google them up, and they charge a pretty penny for their product.
1a) Of what Quality?The quality of the products built with Delphi so poor that the vendors just decided to move on. That means, even with small costs - domain and cheap web-hosting (US$9.95, US$4.95...), some vendors just decided their domains should expire and no-longer pay for the web-hosting.
The former two Delphi Magazines, DelphiMagazine (UK) redirects to a Thumb-Drive buy-now site, DelphiMagazine (USA) redirects to a cyber-squatter site.
The remaining people who are there, developed in during the Delphi 3-7 time when CompuServe, AOL and BBS's ruled the day. When the Internet came, a new and ugly force came out - nasty customer feedback.
CompuServe had this whack-a-mole policy where you can delete nasty feedback and ban that person from the whole CompuServe network. There were a couple of vocal "Delphi Haters" who voiced their opinions and eventually got removed from the former GO:BORL forums. Then came the USENET, where (as of today), Borland still puts hosts a newsgroup server linked to web-based NNTP. They stopped anonymous-posting when Simon Kissel (of Cross-Kylix fame) spammed the former Borland newsgroups and permanently ejected from the CodeGear, Embarcadero newsgroups.
1b) Plagiarism and Fraud.
Why bother work so hard to write your own codes when you can steal it and re-brand it as your own?
- The library EZPDF Library is a rip-off from QuickPDF Library,
- The former UDC corporation sold rip-off versions of Julian's WpTools,
- The CNPack "borrowed" some code from Andy J's famous IDE extensions (and then Andy Closed-sourced them to prevent updates from his own extensions going to CNPack),
- SoftLab Dephi Decompiler for Delphi and C++ Builder is a rip-off of EMS Source Rescuer,
- DA Generator includes a copy of Delphi 7 DCC Compiler (check the delphi directory in the program)
- Grid Plus Plus runs into an interesting licensing problem: It is illegal to use DevExpress, WpTools, TMS, TeeChart (et al) in design-mode in binary form. Their (meaning: WpTools, TMS, DevExpress, TeeChart) EULA prohibits it. The vendor must also be legally-blind since they used to call it "Delphi++" and then got a nice letter from Embarcadero's lawyers.
- I reviewed DxSock many months ago and gave it a negative review. Other people say the same:
The complete opposite of what is written on their website.
With people using Delphi doing this, you can imagine why:
It's faster to make money from the sweat of other people, lie about everything and get away with it. Many Delphi developers get away with it because many of them are overseas. Their customers would be from Japan, Germany or Brazil and then they have no legal recourse to get their money back, short of disputing it with MasterCard or Visa.
That's why you see some vendors offering direct money transfer to pay money to them. Good luck if you can get your money back. Then, there is PHP with mostly free, C# with mostly free, Python, Ruby with almost free everything you can take and use. Ditto with Java. For example, Mr. Jolyon Smith uses NetBeans instead. Go figure...
A fool and his money is one big (third) party...
2) Desktop app only, but no Linux, Mac, Web or Andriod or iPad or iPhone apps.The biggest market now is portable apps. The other reason for this is because it is easy to develop and fast to make money because either the Telco (your telephone company such as AT-and-T or Verizon) or iTunes or Google collects money on the developer's behalf.
For example, to activate the product, you would send an SMS (US$5.00) to a certain number and then receive a confirmation code to enter into the small mobile app. Some vendors, like Kaspersky Anti-virus sends the confirmation code to enter to your PC's Kaspersky Security application.
Mac and Linux apps are good money, it seems. Certain vendors make Mac-only applications and earn lots of money. For instance, OmniGroup makes excellent products for Mac OSX.
iTunes, iPhone and iOS is the latest hottest territory for developers. Where's Embarcadero? not here...
3) Software Piracy. This is already affecting many Delphi 3rd party developers.
Ask Mr. Ray N. whether DevExpress would support "Diamond Docking", better looking Ribbon compatibility (as in better looking Ribbon aesthetics and Ribbon UI) or when a Report Writer for VCL would be ready, the answer is that they don't have the money to do it. (or rather - they cannot afford to hire more Delphi developers)
This leads to higher prices or building SAAS products (e.g., TestRails) because there is no piracy or leaks when the customer does not pay-up. Have you seen any SAAS product built with Delphi? Me neither.
Good times are over. DelphiHater's predictions in a jobless recovery and jobless economy
Your reviewer sees many friends who are dying to find a job. Maybe it's time to say this to them:
1) Move on. Delphi won't pay your bills anymore. The reasons are simple. For employers, the costs don't make any sense. The development costs are so expensive, all the profits get eaten-up by the vendors and there's no money left.
If there was money left, it's all gone. Take a look at how many jobs PHP, VB.NET, C# are available. Maybe you'll learn something like learning a new skill towards financial freedom.
But wait - there's more. There's this need to buy, buy and buy third-party components and then realize that most of it is of better quality or requires no payment in C#, PHP, Perl, Java and even in OSX / iOS (iPhone/iPad).
2) Consider flipping burgers in Mc Donalds or working as a store assistant in Wallmart. For some people, that's considered a deep insult, but to be honest, in this kind of economy, maybe these people can see beyond fooling around during office-hours monitoring the newsgroups (like an unpaid employee) or doing work for free for others, or doing work for nothing.
Basic lessons -- like coming early to work, leaving on-time, taking responsibility for a job, doing a good job well done comes with flipping burgers. The saying goes -- the higher the wages before being laid-off and pride, the deeper the fall...
3) Consider going to work as a junior C# or C++ developer. Face the honest facts and realize that all the time you were lied, cheated and there is nothing honest with Delphi. The whole thing is a big house of credit-card debts, one bill after another not paid, nothing worth it. Amazingly, many Delphi developers shun re-learning everything all over again, telling the same nonsense over and over again -- like too hard to learn a new language, too difficult. But what the fact is that these Delphi developers don't want to learn anything except want a big paycheck (that no longer exists).
4) Some female Delphi developers on the newsgroups have become domestic servants or au-pair or cleaner or janitor. It's a damn shame that someone leaves the country (e.g., Philippines, Indonesia) and work as a domestic servant in a richer country (e.g., UK or Ireland or Italy). Your reviewer was surprised to know there was so many Delphi developers who gave up their job and went overseas. Don't be surprised the nanny who takes care of your kids was once a Delphi developer :)
There are always die-hard Delphi software developers. You can read the current article "Lost a Delphi Envagelist" if you feel confident.
6 comments:
Interesting article, but your assumptions about the licensing issue for grid plus plus is not correct, also the name Delphi++ was used on purpose and totally in control by the laws effected. It was a marketing trick to draw attention, but I am sure you knew that, since this is a Delphi haters blog. You are right about Delphi Jobs though.
Great article, same as previous.
You forget only support things. Now I am support project written on D2006 and of course make development using C#/ASP.NET. It is shame, but rewriting ALL code on C# (I use Firebird) much more quicker than do just refactoring on Delphi. Unfortunately I can't just move on to C# (hardware limitations for my customers) but I am definitely increase them for new version. Also migration to next version of Delphi (which probably give me Prism) is $600 (upgrade)while VS Pro 2010 is $900 (new version). So now sense to invest more to Delphi. I just make customers happy and will go on with C#/ASP.NET.
Stupid Embarcadero/Codegear/Borland policy just kill product.
"Delphi Evangelist"? Mike Potter? Never heard of him until I read his posting.
10 years from now there will be a Hater Blog for .NET or Qt, it does not matter, people loosing jobs and trying to search a reason because they can't move on if you ask me, the pirating stuff is not the job killer, the job killer is being lazy to learn/explore something new.
Let's be honest, if Delphi developers have moved on, why would they still bitch about that Delphi is not good, or late or loosing market... I can tell you, those who have not moved on are the ONLY once who are trying to show the dark side of Delphi because they are dependent on it, what they don't realize is they are just cutting of their own branch because knowing Delphi is becoming very unique and expensive, you just have to find a way to sell your Delphi skills, and you can't do that by bitching about it and hoping that EMB or 3rd Party component developers will hear and response to your dilemma that you are not happy -> They most likely just execute their business plan whether your happy or not.
Conclusion: Folks its time to move on, and if you can't move on stop bitching about a product that was just 5 years ago the greatest RAD Tool on this planet, but innovation, evolution is inevitable.
Try to understand deeply what this article is about rather than criticize it...
Do you think what you say is true about your licensing issues?
Since when did TMS give you a "developer license" to re-use their TMS products in your ++Technology products?
Or when did WpTools, DevEx, TeeChart did the same? LOL
Why don't you ask TMS/WpTools/TeeChart/DevEx for a developer copy license to reuse their grid/components into your product?
Such a cost would run into thousands of Euros.
You misunderstood! I was not criticizing your article, the opposite, I agree with the most of what you say. I just think its time to move on when one is not happy about something, was just an opinion. But there is a true factor of the percentage of in Delphi Lover's becoming Delphi Hater's. I myself for example are moving from Delphi to Qt, it is inevitable, but that does not mean I hate Delphi now :)
I don't want to start a licensing discussion. However, all I can say is we don't have any licensing issues.
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